The conversation begins with Rogan giving a synopsis of the Nashville shooter and subsequent liberal media coverage of it.
Rogan starts, "There's all these articles that came out about the misgendering of the school shooter. Which is so wild."
Rogan begins an attempt to unpack and sort out the layers of the situation. "First of all, that person's dead. Okay? It doesn't matter if you call it a boy or a girl. That's a dead person who killed three children and three adults in a horrific way - went into a school, shot a bunch of people up. And it's a biological male. It's a biological male which by the way is all school shooters. Almost all shooters in general are biological males."
Rogan's guest, Michael Shellenberger, responded to Rogan's comment, noting, "I thought that it was, oh, ok, I thought, I thought she was, I thought he was a trans...male? No?"
"I do not believe so," Rogan said. "See, that’s how confusing it is, it’s so confusing. They’re calling it a woman in all the mainstream media now, and they have apologized for misgendering, some people have, which must mean that you’re talking about a biological male," he added, stating "let’s find out."
Shellenberger states "What's clear is that there was misgendering going on," to which Rogan responds, "What does that mean, what does that mean? Look I think this whole thing is nonsense, I really do, it's f-king nonsense. Do you have a biological male with a penis who shot up a bunch of people? Then that's a man! I don't give a f*ck what their feeling is.""If an archaeologist found their body five thousand years from now, they would say that's the skeleton of a male," Rogan continued.
Recently, Riley Gaines used a similar premise during a lecture. When she asked if an archaeologist would be able to differentiate genders based on skeletal remains, a man in the audience, a teacher, replied no.
The two pulled up a report on the show, which revealed that Hale identified as a transgender male, meaning Hale is a biological woman.
"So why are they saying a woman? Why are they giving a woman’s name?" Rogan questioned. "So it’s a female that took hormones? So is this the first ever biological female mass shooter?"
Shellenberger noted, "like, biological women don’t commit — it’s like a tiny percentage of homicides."
"I’m so confused," Rogan said, adding that "I think everybody’s confused on this."
"Are you confused?" Rogan asked his guest.
"My understanding is that she was a natal female that transitioned to become a trans male, he, but that he was then misgendered by the mainstream woke media as a woman," Shellenberger said, noting that Aiden was the chosen name and Audrey was the shooter’s given name.
"Oh, so when they called her Audrey they were dean naming her," Rogan said followed by a sigh of "oh my God."
On March 27, Hale broke into the Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee and killed three students and three staff members.
Hale was revealed to have had at least seven firearms hidden in her family's home, who were under the impression that Hale had previously sold the single firearm that she possessed. Hale had also been in treatment for an unspecified emotional disorder, and it has also been reported that she had "high-functioning autism."
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